cryptoz I just caught wind of that. He would have to speak on that. I can only share my experience. I've never paid for his services, I've only experienced him dipping out of our club. I can speak on that. But what ive seen recently are wins. As far as that other stuff I wasn't apart of. At the same time if it was done to me like ppl say, I would be feeling some type of way too. Again if he did those things he would need to speak on it, not me. I wasn't even a member when all of those things were happening. But the fact as of now dude is winning and isn't charging. So whatever money has been taken or whatever , you definitely can get it back from what im seeing, and its consistent with damn near any state. Im trying to get wins, and whatever he is doing is working. All I'm saying is if its that consistent why not?? Holding on to that hasn't changed anything thus far. The dude is still here and dropping numbers. So while the things you say he did are still being brought up, ppl are getting paid from his list. And its not a big list.