I agree 100%, m3gawinn3er suggested this method a while ago and i have stuck with it ever since, also you must follow the trend with in / out patterns, also some in/out patterns are married to spike and trough patterns and believe me they will not split up. i am fishing for a huge hit in pick 4 with this method. mr. bing is my email gymrattew@gmail.com if you want to swap ideas.