david 530 yes, when you get the numbers in the Prediction Tool, don't take out the Odd and Even patterns, just work from the Number Patterns alone. Don't take out the #8 in the first position, turn off everything else, except a few other favorite first position numbers...#8, and maybe #2, and#" #4 would be left on only in the first position...you then sort out the combinations that doesn't has #8 in it starting from the bottom to the top. Or reduce the Number Patterns more then keep all combinations with a #8 in it.
